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Folk and the Floyd

by deadheaduk @ Wednesday, 15. Feb, 2006 - 00:17:40

Over the weekend I managed to wrestle the remote controls from Sarah for a few minutes and watch two programs of my own choosing!!

The first was one of the Classic Albums series and was about the making of the Pink Floyd classic Dark Side of the Moon. Love it or hate it – it’s an institution. I’ve owned three copies of it over the years, two vinyl copies (the first one wore out) and a CD. I have so far resisted the urge to buy one of the recent remixed versions. Add to this a couple of live versions, an ambient trance re-mix and a reggae cover-version called Dub side of the moon!

I remember the first time I heard it, in about 1977 when it was only a few years old. I asked my brother to ask a girlfriend’s brother if I could borrow some Floyd LP’s. My brother old me he had heard some of Dark Side but it was just a load of “funny noises”. Thankfully I didn’t listen to him! (And he came to love it too)

The album was recorded in 1973 and much of the program was taken up with explanations of how the sounds were achieved. Early sequencers, tape loops (often wrapped around broom handles) tapes recorded and played backwards etc. Hours were spent setting the clocks to all go off at the same time!!

The album was made at a time when experimentation in the studio was possible; bands would spend hours, sometimes even days getting the sound they wanted. The Grateful Dead once asked for the sound of thick air and on another occasion lined up four tape players to mix the sound from different performance of the same song, slowing them down or speeding them up to match the tempos. Pink Floyd and the Beatles spent months in the studio at the end of the 60 and beginning of the 70’s.

Led Zeppelin once hired a mansion and set up the drumkit on the landing of the stairs in the great hallway - they then recorded it by hanging two microphones above it to get a big drum sound. It’s sad to think that now all of these effects can be done on computer in a fraction of the time and sound processing electronically can give the effects you want. Odd though that albums don’t achieve the classic status of DsotM anymore!

The other program was called Folk Routes and was part of BBC Four’s Folk Britannia series. It was the second part of a three part series covering the history of British Folk music and covered the 60’s and early 70’s and the beginnings of folk rock. I had to endure cries of “Oh my God Banjos quick turn it off” and other such comments from Sarah though.

My introduction to folk music came when a new kid turned up at school. Mike Welbrock was the son a vicar who had moved from Basingstoke to Sunderland bringing with him a guitar and a huge knowledge of folk music. He became a friend and introduced me and my friends, who were mostly listening to rock music, to a whole new spectrum of music.

Mike introduced me to the music of John Martyn, Nick Drake, Roy Harper and Ralph McTell among many others. It was also because of him that I went to my first folk gig, which was, I think, Dave Swarbrick and friends at the Sunderland Empire.

The program contained clips and interviews with the very besk of the British folk scene and I was actually quite amazed about how many of them I had seen:

Fairport Convention, Bert Jansch, John Martyn, Lindisfarne, Danny Thompson, Martin Carthy, Donovan, Robin Williamson, Mike Heron, Clive Palmer and the Incredible String Band, Steeleye Span, Roy Harper and Richard Thompson

Of course I would have loved to have seen Nick Drake or Sandy Denny but it was not to be.

Part 3, Between the Wars is on BBC 4 this weekend and includes Billy Bragg, The Levellers, The Pogues, The Waterboys and the Men they couldn’t hang.


 
 

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[Visitor]

15/02/06 @ 00:22

I love Pink Floyd! I performed a bit from The Wall with one of their tribute bands a few years ago. I was one of the schoolkids!!! It was so much fun!!! I couldn't name any individual tracks (except Another Brick in the Wall) but i really love listening to all of it!! XxX

deadheadukdeadheaduk [Member]
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15/02/06 @ 23:07

I saw them do the wall at Earls Court - one of only about 30 performances worldwide. I keep meaning to do a webpage about it but who knows when it will happen!

Also when I first moved to London I worked with a guy called conor (who was the thickest person I ever knew) and he had gone to school with the kids who sang on the original version

[Visitor]

15/02/06 @ 01:59

Just caught ur blog on recent posts. aaaahhhhh Pink Floyd shheeeeeeesh the memories came flooding into my head. The very 1st time I heard 'wish you were here' aaaeooons ago in a faraway land.

Thnk you tht was nice really nice reminder. I got a clip on my comp Live at Pompeii 1972 which I just had to play.

isadora101isadora101 [Member]
16/02/06 @ 21:32

You've got a great memory for musical detail. You got me digging out my old 'folk festival' programs as I recognised some of the names you listed as some I have seen.
I saw Richard and (his then wife) Linda Thompson at the 16th Cambridge folk festival in 1980.
Co-incidently do you see the article in the Sunday Times last week about Richard T and members of Fairport Convention living in a pub in the early '70s? Those were the days ;)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2098-2031915,00.html

isadora101isadora101 [Member]
16/02/06 @ 21:42

The link doesn't work so i've posted the article on my 'snippet' blog if you fancy a bit of light reading.

[Visitor]

17/02/06 @ 22:08

"DSOTM" was the fourth album I ever bought. I've had 2 vinyl, one tape, one CD and a ripped MP3 copy. It was the first record I played after my father's funeral, and I howled - not because my Dad liked the Floyd, but because it took me back to a time when he would've complained about it. I find myself telling our Chris to turn down his music these days - some of it that I've taped for him !

Did you ever hear about the 'household objects' album that PF said they wanted to record after "DSOTM" ? Seems they had this desire to get back to psychedelic experimentation, but did "Wish You Were Here" instead - not a bad decision.

10 or 11 years ago I used to sing in folk clubs. Hooked up with the old friend who'd introduced me to 'em last year (at the Windy Bottom festival, to which you're invited this year, incidentally) and she reminded me that i used to do obcure Irish rebel songs and Breton airs that no-one had ever heard before. I took that as somewhat of an accolade ! Thanks for the tip-off about "Between the Wars", incidentally. Will try to catch it.

[Visitor]

22/02/06 @ 14:21

an ambient trance re-mix

sounds interesting. I hadn't heard of that one.
Label etc - Approx Price these days?
I actually think the album patchy and ill conceived - Wish You Were Here was a better album and closer to the essence of SB and if you watch rather than listen to The Wall it is still a masterwork of 20C Art. (actually, after watching it every other hearing will bring G Scarfes haunting work and Bob Geldoff's performance - in fact the whole film back again.

[Visitor]

22/02/06 @ 14:24

PS Their is a new biog out on Nick Drake. Still explains nothing. I think he is over-rated (as dead heroes often are) and was deeply spoiled and unrealistic about his career. Muff Winwood called him 'a pain in the ass' and I can believe that. But Sandy Denny was a true loss.

deadheadukdeadheaduk [Member]
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23/02/06 @ 20:27

There was a whole series of them of doubtful legality, now out of print as far as I know

There's info here

http://www.pf-roio.de/roio/trance_remixes.html

[Visitor]

23/02/06 @ 23:15

Thanks - Probably little chance of finding a copy at a sensible price .... there again. Very odd this afternoon. Google images had none of the 'crossed hammers' from artwork of The Wall. Finally tracked it down on Scarfe's own site.

I've had a nostalgic day listening to Free, Lynyrd Skynred (sp?) and of all people, good old Richard Thompson. Ahh memories....

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